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Hervey de Glanville

Hervey de Glanville

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Hervey de GlanvilleHervey de Glanville wurde geboren in cir 1095 in Bawdsey, Woodbridge, Suffolk,England (Sohn von Robert de Glanville).

    Notizen:

    Zitat aus: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Glanville-97 (Jul 2023)

    Biography

    "In the time of Henry I., he distinguished himself in many of the affairs of State, of things connected with his own Counties of Suffolk and Norfolk, and with those relative to the realm at large. On the accession of Stephen to the throne, Sir Hervey filled the important office of Chamberlain to that King, and no doubt took part in many of the disturbances which happened during his reign."

    In 1150, "When William Martel, sewer to King Stephen, was sent to the city of Norwich, as the King's Deputy and Judge, he, according to his commands, summoned the chief barons and knights of Norfolk and Suffolk, to attend him in the name of the King, at Norwich, for the purpose of discussing certain affairs of the kingdom, and, on the appointed day, the barons and knights that had been summoned, presented themselves in the Bishop's garden. Amongst those who were present was William, Bishop of Norwich; Nigel, Bishop of Ely; Ording, Abbot of St. Edmund; Walter, Abbot of Holm; etc. Then two gentlemen, named Jordan de Blosseville, and Richard de Waldar, brought in a youth named Herbert, and, placing him in their midst, told the assembled lords that the boy had informed the King that during last year he was servant to Sir Robert Fitz Gilbert; that when the King's enemies held the Castle of Bedford against him, Sir Ralph de Alstead and his brother Roger were the King's enemies, and had conspired to deliver up the keys to his foes, or murder him, and that the said Ralph de Alstead and his brother Roger came privately out of the city into the King's army, and changed horses, shields, and saddles with Sir Robert Fitz Gilbert and Sir Adam de Hornyngsheth, in order to put their wicked designs into force, and the youth Herbert was there before them ready to prove this, for which cause King Stephen had sent William Martel, his sewer, to hear the matter, that the two knights might be lawfully heard and judged by their county.

    "As soon as the Abbot of St. Edmund's Bury heard this accusation against Sir Ralph and his brother, he stood up and told the assembled Barons that these were two of his knights, and were men of the Blessed St. Edmund, and therefore could not be brought or made to answer in this place or city, but in the Court of St. Edmund at Bury. He then appealed to all the bishops, abbots, knights, and gentlemen that they would grant a respite until he had talked with the King, which was granted him. The Abbot and his train went to Stephen and showed him their charters and privileges, upon which the King answered, told them that all justice originally belonged to the county and court there, and therefore sent them back to the council, saying, whatever was done by them he would stand by. Returning to Norwich, they produced their charters and liberties to the council, upon which Sir Hervey de Glanville rose and made a speech in the assembly, telling them that he was a very old man, having constantly attended the County and Hundred Court for above fifty years with his father, before and after he was knighted, as they all knew; and he assured them, that in the time of Henry I., when justice and equity, peace and fidelity, flourished in England, though now, alas, war silenced justice and law, he remembered a question of the like nature concerning the liberties of St. Edmund, and they then all arose in the Shire-mote, and the Abbot had it then allowed, that all pleas, suits, and actions of whatsoever nature concerning any person in the liberties of St. Edmund, except the plea of murder, or treason, found belonging to the Court of St. Edmund, and were to be tried either by the Abbot or his steward or other officer. Upon which the bishops and barons present, with the consent of Roger Gulafer, William de Frechnie, sheriffs, and also of Hervie son of Hervie (de Glanville), Robert de Glanville, and others, presented the liberties to be good, and delivered their testimony of it to William Martel, who notified it to the King, who confirmed it, and appointed a day for the cause." (Ref: Records of the Anglo-Norman House of Glanville)

    Spouse

    Per 16 May 2000 posting of Raymond Phair on soc.genealogy.medieval, Hervey's wife was Mabel (last name unknown). Detached Matilda (Unknown) de Glanville (abt.1096-) as spouse.

    Research Notes [1]

    Hervey was born in the 1090s or earlier, as implied by his speech at a local court [2]. Using an unspecified source, Mortimer claimed Hervey married Mabel -- [3].

    Mortimer thought Hervey was the son of Robert de Glanville (alive c.1140) based upon two Coxford priory records [3]. The first one was an agreement dated by Mortimer, without explanation, as probably 1171 [4]; Hervey's confirmation of that agreement was the second record. Other records indicate Ranulf had probably succeeded before 1166 [2,6].

    Mortimer's assumption that Robert was identical to the Robert who appears in charters of 1140-5 and c.1150 with his father Roger de Glanville [2] is chronologically implausible -- Roger, according to Mortimer's version, would have been Ranulf de Glanville's great- grandfather and at least 90 years old in 1140. The latter charter, if Mortimer's interpretation is accepted, would have had the unlikely situation of Ranulf (long before he was prominent) appearing in the witness list after his father but before his great-grandfather and grandfather. A more tenable identification of the Roger in these charters would be Hervey's brother Roger who had a son Robert [5,3].

    An earlier Ranulf de Glanville and his successor Hervey de Glanville were benefactor and witness of Robert Malet's Eye priory during its foundation period 1086-1105/6 [6]. Their names and the observation that the justiciar and his father were witnesses of charters for the priory, suggests there might be a connection between the justiciar's family and these earlier Glanvilles.

    The other Glanville family in 12th- and 13th-century east Anglia were descendants of William de Glanville who founded Bromholm priory in 1113 [3,7]. William and his descendants held some of the estates which had formerly been held by Robert de Glanville, a Domesday tenant of Robert Malet. Its not known whether Robert had any children, but it seems likely that William was a relative. Hervey with his son Ranulf (the future justiciar) witnessed a few charters for this other Glanville family, but the relationship, if any, between these two families has not been determined.

    Familie/Ehepartner: unbekannt. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

    Kinder:
    1. Ranulph (Ranulf) de Glanville wurde geboren in cir 1120 in Stratford Saint Andrew, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England.
    2. Roger de Glanville

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert de GlanvilleRobert de Glanville wurde geboren in cir 1065 in Normandie (Sohn von Ranulph (Ranulf) de Glanville und Flandrina de Suffolk).

    Notizen:

    More under: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Glanville-174 (Jul 2023)

    Disputed Ancestry
    Robert's proven ancestry is non-existent. There are indications that the lines were related in some fashion. But there are various opinions about how they are related. The line set out for Robert's brother Hervey, based on Moriarty, has Robert in it as an elder brother, but states that he dsp. The line with Robert as grandfather of Ranulph is based on R. Mortimer, "The Family of Rannulf de Glanville", 'Bulletin of the Institute of Historical Research' LIV (1981) 1-16.

    Kinder:
    1. 1. Hervey de Glanville wurde geboren in cir 1095 in Bawdsey, Woodbridge, Suffolk,England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Ranulph (Ranulf) de GlanvilleRanulph (Ranulf) de Glanville wurde geboren in cir 1045 (Sohn von Rainald de Belfoi (de Glanville)); gestorben in cir 1085.

    Notizen:

    Zitat aus: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Glanville-96 (Jul 2023)

    Biography
    Came to England with William the Conqueror. He was one of the commanders of the Archers du Val du real and Bretheul at the Battle of Hastings in 1066.

    He was a witness, along with William the Conqueror, to a grant which Walter Giffard, Earl of Buckingham, made to the monks of Cerasie in Normandy. He gave his house in Jakesley to the monks of Eye.

    His death date is stated to be about 1085 because he is not mentioned in the Domesday Book. So he might have died before the survey was made, or possibly returned to his Lordship in Normandy, France.

    Research Notes
    "Ranulph FitzRanulf de Glanville, said by Dugdale (1674) to have been one of the barons to Robert Mallet, Lord of the Honor of Eye, who gave to the monks of Eye a house in Tukesley, upon the foundation of that monastery (see Mon. Ang. Vol. 1, p. 357 1, n. 10). Gabriel D'Umoulin in his "Historie Generale de Normandie," etc., records that Ranulf "entered into England in the train of William the Conqueror, and who by his wife Flandrina had issue Robert, William, Dean of Liseaux, Walter, and Hervey."

    Ranulph heiratete Flandrina de Suffolk in Datum unbekannt. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]


  2. 5.  Flandrina de Suffolk
    Kinder:
    1. 2. Robert de Glanville wurde geboren in cir 1065 in Normandie.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Rainald de Belfoi (de Glanville)Rainald de Belfoi (de Glanville) wurde geboren in cir 1020 in Calvados (Sohn von Richard de Belfoi, Lord Glanville ).

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    Name:
    Rainald or Ranulph de Glanville was Lord of Glanville circa 1040, and he, about 1064, witnessed a charter in favor of Robert de Mowbray.
    Zitat aus: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Glanville-95

    Kinder:
    1. 4. Ranulph (Ranulf) de Glanville wurde geboren in cir 1045; gestorben in cir 1085.


Generation: 5

  1. 16.  Richard de Belfoi, Lord Glanville Richard de Belfoi, Lord Glanville wurde geboren in cir 990 in St Sauveur Le Vicomte, Manche, France (Sohn von Hamon aux Dents (St Sauveur) und Godehilde Bellême (de Creil)).

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    Geburt:
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Belfroi-1

    Kinder:
    1. 8. Rainald de Belfoi (de Glanville) wurde geboren in cir 1020 in Calvados.


Generation: 6

  1. 32.  Hamon aux Dents (St Sauveur) wurde geboren in cir 965 in Manche, Basse-Normandie, France; gestorben in 1047 in Val-es-Dunes.

    Notizen:

    Zitat aus: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/St_Sauveur-21 (Jul 2023)

    Hamon was Seigneur of Torigny and Creully. He married Godchilde (daughter of Count Yves of Belleme, unidentified). Godchilde died 1035. Hamon was killed at the Battle of Val-es-Dunes (1047), to the southwest of Caen, where King Henri of France gave Duke William crucial help in defeating the rebellious Norman rebels.

    Gestorben:
    Gefallen in der Schlacht..

    Hamon heiratete Godehilde Bellême (de Creil) in Datum unbekannt. Godehilde (Tochter von Ives de Creil (Bellême) und Godehaut (Godehildis)) wurde geboren in cir 968; gestorben in cir 1035. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]


  2. 33.  Godehilde Bellême (de Creil)Godehilde Bellême (de Creil) wurde geboren in cir 968 (Tochter von Ives de Creil (Bellême) und Godehaut (Godehildis)); gestorben in cir 1035.

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    Name:
    Bellême (Belesme) war eine Adelsfamilie, die vom 10. bis zum Ende des 11. Jahrhunderts in der Normandie und in Maine existierte. Rechnet man die Nachkommen in weiblicher Linie dazu, die den Namen Bellême führten, aber zum Haus Montgommery gehörten, erreichte die Familie den Höhepunkt ihrer Macht sogar erst im 12. Jahrhundert.
    Mehr: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellême_(Adelsgeschlecht)

    Notizen:

    Das Richard der Sohn von Hamon gewesen sein soll wundert mich etwas?
    Er ist um 990 geboren, der erste? Ehemann von Godehilde soll jedoch bis um 997 gelebt haben..?

    Verheiratet:
    Ich stelle hier die zwei Ehemänner der Godehildis laut WikiTree dar..
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bellême-1

    Laut Stammliste in Wikipedia ist der erste Ehemann:
    -Albert de La Ferté-en-Beauce (in deren Stammliste finde ich keinen Hinweis darauf?)
    und der zweite:
    - Raoul II., Vizegraf von Maine, 967/97 bezeugt
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellême_(Adelsgeschlecht)

    Kinder:
    1. 16. Richard de Belfoi, Lord Glanville wurde geboren in cir 990 in St Sauveur Le Vicomte, Manche, France.