| 10. |  Ives de Creil (Bellême) wurde geboren in cir 935; gestorben in cir 983. Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:
- Bürger: Maine; Ursprünglich stammt die Familie aus Maine..
- Ereignis: Notre-Dame, Bellême; Gründet Notre-Dame-de-Bellême
- Besitz: Oise; Begütert in der Oise
Notizen:
Zitat aus: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bellême-6 (Aug 2023)
Biography
Progenitor of the House of Belleme, Seigneur of Belleme[1]
Yves de Bellême (from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - This article is based in part on a translation of the article fr:Yves Ier de Bellême from the French Wikipedia on 26 June 2012)
"Yves de Bellême (died c. 1005), Seigneur de Bellême, the first known progenitor of the House of Bellême.
"Yves was probably the son of Yves de Creil,[a][1] one of those who saved young Duke Richard I from death or mutilation at hand of King Louis IV of France.[2] Yves de Bellême held the castle and lands of Bellême, of the King of France, as well as the Sonnois and part of the Passais, both held of the Count of Maine.[3] That he held part of the march-lands of Passais is known from his having given abbot Gauzlin of Fleury Abbey the lands of Magny-le-Désert.[1]
"His wife was named Godeheut and although her parentage is unknown, she was the sister of Seinfroy, Bishop of Le Mans.[4][5] Yves was the founder of a church dedicated to the Virgin Mary in his castle of Bellême and endowed it with a church in the Sonoisis, another at Vieux Bellême plus a vill and three other churches in the Hiesmois.[1] Yves died sometime after 1005.[6]
"Family - Yves de Bellême and his wife Godeheut had five children. Yves and Godehilde are directly attested as the parents of Guillaume and Avesgaud. The other children are documented by their connection to one of these two siblings. The chronology of the children of Yves and Godehilde is uncertain because much of what is known comes from charters which can only be dated to within certain ranges.
William of Bellême (960/5 - 1028), succeeded his father as seigneur de Bellême.[4][5] Yves de Bellême (d. 1030), Abbot of Fleury.[5] Avesgaud de Bellême (d. 1036), Bishop of Le Mans.[5] Hildeburg, abt. 1006 married Aimon, Seigneur de Chateau-du-Loir.[5] Godehilde,[5] married Hamon-aux-Dents or Hamon Le Dentu, he was the 1st Baron of Le Creully and he was Lord over Creully, Torigni, Évrecy & St. Scolasse-sur-Sarthe, but he lost all his lands, after trying to kill William the bastard, in the battle of Val-ès-Dunes, Normandy, France
NOTE: Yves de Creil and Yves de Bellême are confused by several sources and thought to be the same person by some. Yves de Creil, who was instrumental in saving young Richard I of Normandy would not chronologically be possible to be the same as Yves de Bellême, the subject of this article, who died c. 1005. Geoffrey White believed Yves de Criel was probably the father of Yves de Bellême, which was also accepted by all the French writers, but was of the opinion it should not be stated as fact as it was by Prentout. See: Geoffrey H. White, The First House of Bellême, TRHS, Vol. 22 (1940), pp. 70-71.
Count of Alencon and Domfront. Had Alencon and Belleme as gift from Richard II, Duke of Normandy. Had Balistarius as gift from Louis IV, King of France.[2]
Count Yves de Bellême (c940-993)[3] was born to Ivo I (c912-961) and Geile de Creil (c912-945). He married Godeheut or Godchilde de Pontieu, sister of Seinfroy.[4]
What in more modern days has been known as the Duchy of Alençon, was formerly held by the Seigneurs de Bellesme, who became in course of time, Counts of Perche and finally Counts of Alençon. They ruled over the whole of Perche, Seez, Alençon, Carbonnois, etc., and though a fierce, proud, warlike, and often cruel race, were gifted with the chivalric virtues of valor and generosity. Ivres, Seigneur de Bellesme, and his wife Godehilde, flourished about 950. He died in 995. His son, "Princeps" Guillaume I, Compte de Bellesme and d'Alençon, succeeded in 995.[5]
Supplementary profile data on Yves II Seigneur De Bellesme and Alençon De Creil collected from the well-documented website of the Ashe Family[6]
Notes
Yves de Criel and Yves de Bellême are confused by several sources and thought to be the same person by some. Yves de Criel, who was instrumental in saving young Richard I of Normandy would not chronologically be possible to be the same as Yves de Bellême, the subject of this article, who died c. 1005. Geoffrey White believed Yves de Criel was probably the father of Yves de Bellême, which was also accepted by all the French writers, but was of the opinion it should not be stated as fact as it was by Prentout. See: Geoffrey H. White, The First House of Bellême, TRHS, Vol. 22 (1940), pp. 70-71.
References ^ Jump up to: a b c Geoffrey H. White, The First House of Bellême, Transactions of the Royal Historical Society, Fourth Series, Vol. 22 (1940), p. 73 Jump up ^ The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumieges, Orderic Vatalis, and Robert of Torigni, Vol. I, ed. & trans. Elisabeth M.C. van Houts (Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1992) pp. 103, 105 Jump up ^ Kathleen Thompson, 'Robert of Bellême Reconsidered', Anglo-Norman Studies XIII: Proceedings of the Battle Conference, 1990, Ed. Marjorie Chibnall (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, UK, 1991), p. 264 ^ Jump up to: a b Geoffrey H. White, The First House of Bellême, Transactions of the Royal Historical Society, Fourth Series, Vol. 22 (1940), p. 72 ^ Jump up to: a b c d e f Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4 (Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, Marburg, Germany, 1989), Tafel 636 Jump up ^ Geoffrey H. White, The First House of Bellême, Transactions of the Royal Historical Society, Fourth Series, Vol. 22 (1940), p. 74 & n. 2
Lord of Bellême, living 1005.
Yves was the first known lord of Bellême, south of Normandy, a powerful lordship during the late tenth and eleventh centuries which eventually passed to heiresses in the late eleventh century. He was succeeded at some time after 1005 by his son Guillaume, and his son Yves II also became lord of Bellême (in succession to Guillaume's son Robert). As discussed below in the Commentary section, the origin of this family is a difficult problem which has not yet been definitively settled.
Date of Death: After 1005. Yves gave Magny-le-Désert to Gauzlin, abbot of Fleury, who did not become abbot until 1005 ["Ivo Belesmensis, ..., hujus dilecti Dei Haudquaquam immemor extitit, Magniacum cedendo illi. Quo tamen defuncto, Willelmus, ejus filius, ..." Vita Gauzlini, c. 9, 282; White (1940): 73-4] Place of Death: Unknown.
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Name:
Bellême (Belesme) war eine Adelsfamilie, die vom 10. bis zum Ende des 11. Jahrhunderts in der Normandie und in Maine existierte. Rechnet man die Nachkommen in weiblicher Linie dazu, die den Namen Bellême führten, aber zum Haus Montgommery gehörten, erreichte die Familie den Höhepunkt ihrer Macht sogar erst im 12. Jahrhundert.
Wie beim Haus Tosny, so vermutet der Historiker Lucien Musset auch beim Haus Bellême und Herkunft aus dem französischen Kernland und nicht aus dem normannischen Adel. Ahnherr war Yves de Creil, der im 10. Jahrhundert an der Oise begütert war. Gérard Louise hat aufgrund einer Vermutung J. Boussards nachgewiesen, dass ihre Heimat die Grafschaft Maine und hier das Saosnois war.
Mehr: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellême_(Adelsgeschlecht) (Aug 2023)
Geburt:
Der Beginn der Stammliste besteht aus drei Fragmenten, wobei es aufgrund der überlieferten verwandtschaftlichen Beziehungen der Bischöfe von Le Mans untereinander denkbar ist, dass es sich bei Sigefridus, Fulcuich und Yves de Creil um drei Brüder handelt.
Mögliche Brüder:
- Sigefridus, † 1002, 969 Bischof von Le Mans, Onkel von Bischof Avesgaud von Le Mans.
- Fulcuich, † wohl vor 997/1008; ⚭ Rothais, † wohl vor 997/1008
Ereignis:
Benedictine abbey founded at the start of the 11th century by the Count of Bellême. Rich architectural heritage, roman transept with original capital, gothic chancel with 3 floors, ambulatory with a chapel and altar pieces. Floodlighting on Saturday and Sunday. Picnic area near the pressing shed.
Zitat aus: https://de.normandie-tourisme.fr/sehenswuerdigkeiten/abbaye-benedictine-notre-dame/
Besitz:
Dem Namen nach in Creil..?
Ives heiratete Godehaut (Godehildis) in Datum unbekannt. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]
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